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December 2001 Meet Reports


29th April - Hilbre Island Walk - Christine Beeston

Those present: Margaret Baldock, Christine Beeston, Andrew Croughton, Dave Dillon, Roger Dyke, Jim and Sandy Gregson, Martin Heaton, Alan (L) Jones, Phil Ramsbottom, Zoë Talks, Brian Taylor, Chris Thickett, Peter Walker, Frank and Margaret Williams, Dave Wylie.

This is a very late meet report, and I am very sorry - I hope I haven't missed anyone - thanks to Roger for his great photos, which allowed me to identify people.

This was supposed to be a climbing meet to Dovestones Edge, but Foot and Mouth meant I had to cast around for something else to do, so a walk to Hilbre Island was the alternative. There was a good turnout despite the short notice, and it was even better when we reached Hilbre and found Andrew, Dave and Margaret looking out for us from the watchtower. Restrictions were lifted just in time for us to add a coastal walk and return through the scenic delights of West Kirby and the Wirral Way (top tip, when organizing walks through built up areas, check loos are available to avoid delays) as well as the walk out to the islands and back. The walk to Hilbre is lovely and well worth a repeat around February for the birds, so I'm told, and it was nice to at least be in wide open (if flat) spaces for a change. Thanks to all for coming along, and special thanks to Alan Jones for providing such an excellent spread with cakes and endless tea!


22nd / 23rd September - Salving House, Joint Meet with FRCC - B.Anderson

Present: Jim Gregson, Sandy Gregson, Virginia Castick, Chris Thickett, Bob Anderson plus 18 FRCC members.

Two fine days in the Lakes (three for Bob and Chris who started on Friday) was the reward for those attending.

FRCC parties were active on Shepherds, Black Crag, High Crag, The Napes and at Bowderstone but found the Rock greasy and the air cool. KMC concentrated on walking and scrambling. Virginia knocked off a few Wainwrights, whatever they are, Jim and Sandy traversed most of the western Lakes including Base Brown, Green Gable, Great Gable, Scafell Pike, Allen Crags and Glaramara. Chris and Bob did a truncated version of the above (no Scafell Pike) allowing plenty of time for resting and admiring the views. More walking by KMC on Sunday.

Dry fine days in the Lakes, marvellous, why did you miss it.


29th / 30th September - Ty Powdyr Working Meet - Iain McCallum

Members present : Bob. Anderson, Martin Heaton, lain McCallum, Lester Payne, Zoë Talks, Steve Taylor, Chris Thickett, Frank Williams, Margaret Williams, Alan Wylie, Dave Wylie.

Guests present: Martin Wilcock, Emma Richards and William Taylor (aged 4!)

Another very successful working party. A good start was made on Friday with the delivery of the timber cladding, door frame, cement, lime and sand by C. L. Jones(B) Ltd. to lain and Lester at the hut. The weather, however, did not co-operate entirely and although it was fine on Saturday, on Sunday the rain fell in sheets and the wind blew all day.

Tasks accomplished:

Dormitories: Elidir Fawr - Timber cladding of internal front wall completed, plywood floor installed and cork flooring partly laid. (Bob, Chris, lain) Glyder Fawr - Timber cladding of the ceiling completed ( Steve, Dave and Alan) Timber coving installed in both dorms ( Steve and Dave) and all new timber varnished with at least one coat of varnish ( Martin H. Martin W. and Lester)

Rear wall gutter repaired (by Frank and Alan in the pouring rain!)

Car park perimeter wall - rebuilding and and levelling of the reduced wall commenced (Lester and Martin W.)

Cleaning: Washrooms - showers, toilets, wash basins( Iain and Zoë) Kitchen - fans, cooker, hobs, utensils ( Lester, Martin H. Margaret) Windows inside and out (Zoë)

Minor tasks - many e.g. repairing fan in gents (Dave) oiling all latches and hinges (Alan)

Drying Room: All equipment tested and found to be in good order. Test carried out on two ropes A hawser laid nylon rope and a kernmantel rope, both thoroughly soaked with water. The dehumidifier dried them in five hours - using 2kW of electric heating - temperature 23C. The ropes were spread out to assist the drying process.

Lunch was provided by Iain.

Thanks to everybody who supported the meet for all their hard work.


21st October - Peak District Walk - Derek Seddon

MEMBERS: Bob Anderson, Alan Barber, Sabina Cosulich, Linda Crossley, Jim & Sandy Gregson, Sheena Hendrie, Duncan Lee, Iain McCallum, Lorna Marsland, Lester Payne, Alan Peck, Pete Schofield, Derek Seddon, Jim Taylor, Peter Walker, Frank & Margaret Williams, Zoë Talks, Martin Heaton.

GUESTS: Janice Barber, Steve Chandler, Catherine Liddell, Anthony Mannion.

Was it the promise of a free car park which brought so many to Hope on a dull day? Whatever, it was gratifying to see 20 odd people, including welcome guests and Alan Barber wearing two pairs of shorts, ready for some serious walking. Before we had progressed very far the rain came to join us and stayed with us most of the day, so that by the time we reached the Nag's Head at Edale, where the President and Sheena were glimpsed dimly through the fug, we were feeling dampish. A breakaway lunch group dined under the church lych gate (draughty) after which the party began to get strung out, McCallum striding off in the lead, without a thought for Peter Walker's bad leg. In the ensuing gallop across the fields to Castleton it may be that some members rushed past the spectacular views from the top of the Winnats without noticing them, but all made it down to follow the muddy riverside track back to Hope. On such a fairly miserable day, it's great to be a part of a lively, cheerful lot like this. Thanks to all.


28th October - Yorkshire Walk, try Langdales - G. Harkness

Members: Lester Payne, Virginia Castick, Mark Garrod, Michelle Harvie, Sandy Gregson, Jim Gregson, Susan Harkness, Graham Harkness, Kevin Anderson, Al Metelko

Guest: Dave Hall

There was an apparent need to focus more on the social organisation for Saturday night. We managed to distribute Sue, Graham, Michelle and Mark to the New DG, Dave Hall to the Stickle Barn, Al and Kevin to the Old DG and the Gregson's to the hut.

New rule no fraternising before a meet!! Except for Michelle who kept getting chatted up and offered intoxicants by crowds of younger men in the Stickle Barn, whom she left - rejected - at her feet.

None the less 09:30 (ish) the company turned out at the appointed place, weather beautiful. Al and Kevin headed straight for Gimmer to seize the autumn opportunity.

The rest of us set off up the valley. Around the back of Pike O Blisco, up Browney Gill to Red Tarn and then on to Cold Pike, where I had not walked before. From the top could be seen a good portion of the fell race course from a couple of weeks before (nice to see it this time), beyond to the sea and just about every peak in the lake district plus several beyond.

We then took the ridge north east to the Crinkles. Some dark clouds covered part of the sky and with the sun shining below the clouds the lakes and rivers below the cloud turned to beautiful shining silver, cameras out time.

We stopped for lunch before the windy bit at three tarns and found the most delightful little hollow, out of the by now chilly wind, looking straight down Langdale.

After lunch we continued towards Bowfell pausing only for a little huff and puff up the famous bad step.

We could not stop any more. By now Midge as like the dormouse falling asleep in her tea cup and muttering about wanting to take her clothes off? Oh!! I observed. (Midge actually gets a tick and a merit mark for coming straight to the meet from an overnight hike with the rangers.)

It was a bit late to head for the Pike and by now it was in cloud so we dropped to Ore gap and then Angle tarn Dave headed straight down Rossett Gill to chase his lift home. The rest of us continued further round and descended via Stake pass and back along Mickleden. A superb day after a very constrained summer.

Back at the pub, where we stopped briefly, Kevin and Al reported two E1's on Gimmer: "Crystal" and "Poacher" but the wind had been bitter on the crag, despite the sun and they had to queue for the plum routes.

All told a very enjoyable meet thanks to all.


3rd / 4th November - Ty Powdyr Bonfire & Navigation Course - Duncan Lee

Members present: Jim Gregson, Sandy Gregson, Robert Clark, Al Metelko, Dave Wylie, Alan Wylie, Sheena Hendrie*, John Castick, Virginia Castick, Joanne Castick*, Michelle Harvie*, Mark Garrod, Lee Wood, Sue Brooke, John Dobson*, Dave Shotton*, Chris Williamson, Mark Ashley*, Andrew Croughton*, Dave Lygate*, Joe Flynn, Anthony Mannion *, Lester Payne, Craig Marsden, Sue Marsden, Zoe Talks*, Martin Heaton, Roger Dyke*, Kevin Anderson, Colin Maddison and Duncan Lee (31).

Guests Present: Fay Castick, Ian Dobson*, Rosemary Gibson, Martin Willcox, M.Green, Kate Sparks, Phoebe Marsden, Thomas Marsden, Alexis*, Tony*, Steve Chandler*, James Richardson*, Roisin Maddison and Dave Kenyon* (14).

(*Denotes those who braved the navigation course.)

A meet that must have warmed the cockles of The Hut Treasurers heart saw the hut busy on both nights. Saturday saw 8 hardy souls heading out to The Moelwyns with Dave Kenyon for the Navigation Course and amazingly enough he even brought 8 people back who all seemed to have enjoyed themselves. Luckily for Dave, Michelle had already been for a run in the quarries prior to the course, so she could not run off as quickly as usual in the opposite direction. It should be noted however that Hurricane Michelle did cause havoc in Cuba the following day. She was supposed to have been going back to the Moelwyns with Mark G.

Team Wylie with a variety of helpers busied themselves during the day preparing the Bonfire whilst the less public spirited amongst us snuck off into the hills to walk or climb whilst sampling some of Snowdonia's finest traditional weather. Horizontal heavy drizzle, that provided ideal conditions for a bracing walk, or a mountaineering day in big boots. One group of walkers, who will remain nameless, demonstrated that they should have been on the Nav. Course rather than on The Glyders by following a County boundary rather than a footpath for a mile. JOE, remind Martin next time to a) not follow you and b) to put his camera inside a plastic bag in future.

The rufty tufty mountaineers headed off to the mighty precipices of Tryfan to thrash, grovel, slip, slide, swim and squirm their way up a couple of classics. Direct Route on Milestone Buttress followed by Gashed Crag on the East Face which provided great amusement where "the roof of the Gash halts progress on the ridge but out of sight, round to the right, is a chimney. This is so smooth and tight that it can easily become a very personal struggle." Al and I, who had the pleasure of leading that pitch, can testify to the accuracy of that particular gem of wisdom gleaned from the pages of the guidebook after the event.

The evening saw all and sundry trying to warm and dry themselves around the bonfire whilst the Wylie firework display was as entertaining as ever.

Sunday saw another intrepid bunch; nursing hangovers, disappear off into the mist in The Moelwyns with Dave whilst others just disappeared home. Jim and Sandy tested the strength of the wind on Carnedd Daffyd whilst the Wylie brothers explored out of the wind in some strange old ammunition stores near the DMM factory. A group of walkers headed to the Moelwyns to sabotage the nav. Course whilst Kevin, Al, Lee and Robert ventured up The Pass to Clogwyn Y Grochan where they ascended Karwendel and Kaisergebirge Walls during a break in the monsoon. Colin and I made use of the same weather window by climbing Direct Route on Dinas Mot. The rain set in in earnest in the afternoon providing Dave K with perfect conditions for navigation and a damn good excuse to go home for the rest of us. Thanks to everyone who turned up and helped ensure that the bonfire and navigation courses were both enjoyable.

A select team even stayed on for the Monday. Rumour has it that Hurricane Michelle and Mark squeezed in a quick ascent of Flying Buttress on the Cromlech before rain stopped play.


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