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Karabiner Mountaineering Club

October 2002 Meet Reports


26th May - Climbing (Kinder Western Buttress) - Christine Beeston

Members: Dave Wylie, Dave Dillon, Andrew Croughton, Martin Heaton, Zoe Talks, Al Metelko, Roger Dyke, Christine Beeston. Joe Flynn and Lester Payne (who actually made it to the crag).

Guests: Jason Davis, Michael Dorrington, Jane Kelly, Mike Radcliffe.

Despite the forecast, 12 rufty-tufty members and guests turned out for some alpine training. Only Al had sensibly brought an umbrella. As the rain got heavier, the plan reduced from climbing, to going to have a look at the crag, to a circular walk, and finally to coming down again via William Clough and the Sportsman Inn, with accompanying thunder. At the pub, Roger brightly suggested Windgather ("Look! The stones on the wall are starting to dry a bit!), but this plan was apparently rained off too. Still, we all got some exercise carrying our gear up and down Kinder, and the hot chocolate in the Sportsman was excellent.

Joe and Lester arrived at the crag later, having taken a different route, and apparently even tried to climb something, so top marks to them. Thanks to everyone who turned out for this soggy meet.


15th/16th June - The Southern Seacliff Odyssey (Part Two) - Rick Davis

Swanage

Saturday gave (as the weather forecast had suggested) some rather murky weather, rather overcast and looking threatening, so the team paid a visit to the slightly easier venue of Cattle Troughs where Bunny's route, Hangover and Isis were shown little respect. The latter of these routes next became the setting for a classic style seacliff epic with leader unable to climb on, and belayer unable to see or hear the leader. In comes the KMC to the rescue!

On Sunday the team awoke to sea mist and general murkyness, which did not encourage adventure on seacliff's. So decamped the team headed North to Bristol and the Avon Gorge where Piton Route received some close inspection.

Just goes to show you that to rather distant venues can be visited in a summers weekend if you're willing to put a little effort in!

Needless to say that on the said same weekend there were 10 times the number of club members at the Hut as on the club meet, from which rumours have circulated that a certain Beach Boy was seen introducing another (must have been a lemming in a past life) new member to the delights of Gogarth Seacliff climbing in rough seas and high winds. The same pair were also witnessed by several (laughing and pointing wildly) members to climb on Dinas Mot, and enjoy a very long cold shower, followed by an abseil down a waterfall - needless to say the same witnesses were also patrons of Pete's Eats whilst much of the alleged soaking and abseiling took place.


14th July - Peaks Climbing (Burbage North) - Martin Heaton

Members: Rob Allen, Bob Anderson, Kevin Anderson, Rob Clark, Sabina Cosulich, Linda Crossley, Andrew Croughton (*), Dave Dillon, Roger Dyke, John Evans, Mark Garrod, Michelle Harvie, Martin Heaton, Duncan Lee, Dave Lygate, Colin Maddison, Craig & Sue Marsden, Al Metelko, Lester Payne, Chris Thickett (*), Zoë Talks (*), Dave Wylie

Guests: Mark Ashley, Dan Creber, Kathy Gordon, Mick Hawley, Roisin Maddison, Thomas & Phoebe (*) Marsden, Teresa Parolis & Lynn ?, Ian Roberts & Pete ?, Fiona Roy, Kate Sparks (*), Chris T's partner ? (*).

I arrived on time with Zoë and Kate to bright sunshine, but no climbers. I was just settling down to sun-bathing when Roger and Lester appeared. By the time I had finished Green Crack (VD) there was a seething mass of KMC-ers in the bay below (in all I counted 37 for the day). There followed what I hope was an enjoyable day for all, with enough low- to middle-grade routes to satisfy most.

Stylish ascents were made of Hollyash Crack (VS 4b), the classic Knight's Move (HVS 5a), and entertainment was provided by a number of attempts on the aptly-named The Grazer (VS 4c), of which Al's and Colin's (any more ?) were successful. I was informed that Thomas Marsden (age 8 ?) climbed a severe - good stuff.

I pathetically failed to make the crux move on Big Chimney Arete (HS 4a) as did Lester, but Roger "Cool-Hand" Dyke saved the day and successfully led the route, without falling off !

Colin kindly led Hollyash Crack again, so I could bumble up behind him. I regained some dignity by leading Lie Back, which I believe has been upgraded to VS - same as the Grazer (hmmm). My dignity was short-lived, however, as the (outgoing) President solo down-climbed it.

Thanks to all who came, and also the weather, for making my first meet as leader so enjoyable.


20th/21st July - Family Meet at Ty Powdyr - Sue Marsden

Members: Craig Marsden, Colin Maddison, Kevin Anderson, Andrew Croughton, Dave Dillon, Al Metelko, Dave Garland, Sue Brooke, John Evans, Susan Marsden.

Guests: Thomas Marsden, Phoebe Marsden, Roisin Maddison, Fiona Roy, Jenny Varley.

What a varied and fun weekend we had! Just wish that I had written the meet report straight away, as the paper I wrote my notes on has also been used as shopping list etc.....So I hope that names of routes are all correct! Saturday looked to be a promising morning.....Craig, Susan, Colin, Thomas, Phoebe, Roisin all head for Newborough Warren for walk and play in woods and the beach, but at the point when we are furthest from the car the rain started.....swift retreat to the Beacon. Sue had a bracing if rather wet walk around Llyn Padarn and back up to the hut. Meanwhile Gogarth was the destination for Kevin, Al, John, Dave, Fiona and Jenny. Cafe first to plan routes, but dry later for routes at Castell Helen....Blanco (everybody), Pel (Dave & John, Fiona & Jenny), Rap-VS** (Fiona & Jenny), True Moments/ Freebird-E1***(Kevin & Al). Andrew and Dave went along to capture events on film. The evening was given over to curry, wine, entertaining conversation and wine bottle opening demonstration.

Sunday was truly a beautiful, sunny day. Little Tryfan provided good climbing for Thomas, Roisin and Susan. Phoebe achieved first route on rock! Brief chat with John Sanderson on his way up Tryfan for a solo walk. Sue went for a walk over the Carneddau in the sunshine. Al, Kevin, John, Dave, Fiona and Jenny head back to Gogarth.

Only one child actually bitten by horse in field next to hut, the others ran away!


28th July - Climbing, Nether Tor - Dave Dillion

The Accused: Dave Dillon.

The Charge: Failure to avoid own meet and one count of supplying adequate advertising material for the meet venue.

Resident Jury: Rob Allen, Kevin Anderson, Mark Ashley, Christine Beeston, Robert Clark, Andrew Croughton, Roger Dyke, John Evans, Dave Garland, Martin Heaton, Dave Lygate, Neville McMillan, Al Metelko, Lester Payne, Alan Peck, James Richardson, Perter Sharpe, Dave Wylie.

Guest Jury: Peter "yes, yes, yes" Barns, John "Better up my target to E1" Cox, Mick "The Bike" Hawley, Francis "I've never climbed before, honest" Kundert, Theresa "My arms aren't tired yet" Parolis, Seema "Oh, just some bouldering" Rahman, Ian "The Commissar" Roberts, Kate "It's not steep enough" Sparks, Lynn "Oooh, something harder now" Tomlin.

Case for the Defence:
Nether Tor turned out quite nice really. The rain was held at bay and the midges stayed in their little houses. The initial cloud cover cooled the walk up to the crag from Edale. The cloud sunsequently parted once climbers were established on the rock face, revealing an all over blueness above. The sunshine remained, into the afternoon and even later at The Rambler where it seemed appropriate to support the local economy.

On the fabled route of Flash Wall a great talisman of silver was set in place, high in the final crack system. Such was it that the sun shone upon this giant demonifuge and the entire crag basked in the dual radiance of the golden sun overhead and the new silver sun so lovingly manoeuvred into place by John E.

The resident safety committee was out testing. Unexplored axioms and all that. Top of the agenda - Flagellation, how long does it take for a helmet to fail under the repeated self applied blows of a number three wire. Next on the agenda - Rope extension, by how much does a rope remain extended after a climber plummet with a fall facter of one. (Aside: A fall from the top of the crag to the bottom, with the faller being arrested just before decking out will generate a fall factor of one.) Third on the agenda - Shovels, to be brought to small crags to facilitate holes below routes to generate bigger fall factors.

Wondrous navigation brought James on an overnight jaunt from the Barre des Ecrin hut on the Glacier Blanche straight over to Nether Tor, crampons still jangling in his sack. True gritstone dedication.

An eye opener in the determination department. The guest jury displayed a united front in scampering up everything in their path. Forcing a mental rethink in many of the resident KMC rockjocks, lots of sucked in beer bellies and straightening of backs and clearing of throats and polishing of nuts and flexing of lard supplemented biceps and lightening of loads (soloing) and asking for top ropes in mutes whispers (as opposed to the usual fear unduced roar) and not having a cup of tea between falls and many other such ploys to enhance their glamour.

Lunch time saw a lot of sizzling fat (part of the rethink) layed out under that gorgeous globe. John E., purveyor of quality edible merchandise, unleashed a batch of succulent flapjack, while luxurious sun loungers and 'Didsbury style' strawberries, ported in curtsey of Dave L., added to the bizarre concoction that is Nether Tor, suntrap of the Western Hemisphere.

Andrew was chartered to record the misdemeanours in the event this case goes to appeal.

Naming conventions need a revisit. A close shave was narrowly avoided when two same grade routes with two syllables apiece, a mere two meters apart, where simultaneously climbed by two Johns, belayed by two Daves and subsequently seconded by those two Daves. A double entendre waiting to happen.

Neville and Roger where using a GPS as a crag approach device and have confirmed that the location of Secret Butress is SK11788752 (to ten meters). They haven't admitted if they thought Secret Buttress was in fact Nether Tor, but they did get to Nether Tor via Secret Buttress, being some of the later arrivals. General Note: Neville is said to be issuing the next KMC fell race check pointers with GPS units so they can find the check points. Surely all competitors will have to use them - so that every one will be adrift by the same amount.

A surprising number of routes were prodded and probed, with ascents on Inverted Crack, Don's Mantel, Primitve Route, Nose Climb, Pocket Wall, Weathered Wall, Two Way Route, Birthday Boy, Rucksac, Three Step, Pedistal, Free Wall, The Roman Nose, Rejoyce, Flash Wall. To name some that are in the book. There was one route done on Secret Buttress, by Roger and Neville.

Closing Speech:
I suspect it was the sun that persuaded every one to turn up, they must have been out in it the previous day, got sunstroke and a clouded judgement. However, many thanks, for showing up and toting all the ironmongery and weaponry to such a high level crag. And thanks for being so enthusiastic; both in climbing and providing ropes for others to climb on. Also thanks for drinking beer at the local pub, without which the sunshine couldn't have been fully enjoyed.

The Defence rests.


4th August - Lake District Scramble - Martin Heaton

Members: Christine Beeston, Andrew Croughton (*), Martin Heaton, Alan (Liverpool) Jones, Dave Lygate, Ian McCallum, Lester Payne,

Guests: Ian Roberts & Pete ?

Having successfully palmed this meet onto me, conjuring up some poor excuse, Zoë lay sleeping peacefully as I dragged myself out of bed and peered out at a grey, dull sky. I set off northwards, hoping that no-one would turn up and I could drive back home again to bed.

The further I drove, however, the brighter the sun shone, and by the time I reached Brotherswater, it was a lovely morning and a small but enthusiastic group of five awaited.

We walked down Grisedale, admiring the unfolding views and consequently missing the conventional approach to the scramble. We had to double back slightly and slog up the slope, allowing Christine and Dave (whose journey had been delayed) to catch us up. Andy had continued up Grisedale intending to meet us on the top of Fairfield.

Easy scrambling led straight onto the crest of the ridge, and gradually increased in interest until we reached the crux, a fifteen foot wall of about Diff standard. It was a bit greasy in the conditions and a rope was requested. Lester led up and the rest followed. An exposed section followed, then easy scrambling took us to the summit of St.Sunday crag. A lovely scramble, but it seemed over too soon !

We still had quite a long way to go, and by the time we reached the top of Fairfield, Andy had long gone. We stopped for a while to admire the views (arguably the best view point in the Lakes, in my opinion), before descending the ridge above Hartsop, which seemed surprisingly long, and headed off right down a steep path which led straight to the car park. After an extensive search, Andy was found in one of the Patterdale pubs.


Wednesday 14th August - Tintwistle Knarr(ly) - Fiona Roy

Members: Dave Wylie, Dave Dillon, Dan Braber

It was all going well until the meet leader got half the party lost the instant they started up the track from the car. Led up folly paths, up streams and through hedges backwards before finding the correct path and also Mr Dillon. Who was trying to make his getaway, saying its 'miles back up to the crag'. It was at this point we remembered that the organiser who decided on the venue, Tintwistle Knar, had also made plans to be at least 600 miles away!

Routes done: After the meet leader failed to reach the first hold on a Severe, there was a mass accent of another route. As the guidebook was old and vague we meandered up a wall which promised a variety of 'Severes'. Our interpretation produced an amusing - verging on the absurd - route. Multi-pitch (on grit!) with 40% of the climbing and the crux on extreme grass and heather. After sending the lightest person up to test each tuft of grass, Mr Wylie concerned himself with calculating the structural integrity of the root systems, after 3 people had weighted them?.At least the rock was excellent!

Mr Dillon demonstrated the lost art of hand jamming in extremely muddy cracks, delving below the thick layer of jungle to cover his hands in black mud. Mr Wylie assembled a complex system of knotwork, which wouldn't have looked out of place on the Mary Rose and we had a pleasant 'ledge party' enjoying splendid views and balmy summer weather, although slightly perturbed by the apparently temporary state of the ledge. (see above: structural integrity of root systems)

Mr Metelko would've approved of the style of decent, covering knarly ground by the light of headtorches.


17th/18th August - Climbing (Duddon Valley) - Robert Clark

Members: Robert Clark, Mark Ashley, Joanne Castick, Lester Payne, Rob Allen, Dave Dillon, Dave Bone, Chris Williamson, Pete Walker, Alan 'Liverpool' Jones, Jim & Judith Symon, Frank & Margaret Williams, Sheena Hendrie, Neville McMillan, Sabina Cosulich.

Guests: Jacky & Shane Storbeck, Theresa Parolis, Roger Daley, Rosie, Steve Bowker

Bright sunshine on Friday afternoon and evening seemed to promise a good day for Dow Crag on Saturday. However from Turner Hall Campsite on Saturday morning, it looked cloudy on the tops and there was a stiff breeze blowing. With the cloud gathering and a warning of rain from the farmer, most people opted for the lowlevel crag in the vicinity; WallowBarrow Crag. Eleven of the kmc party took over the crag and numerous routes were done, with not even one trip to the teashop !

Routes ascended in various styles; The Leaf, Western Wall, Malediction, Malediction Direct, The Plumb, Thomas, Digitation, Agitation, Trinity Slabs, Wall and Corner.

Meanwhile Sheena, Neville, Sabina and Steve had opted for Dow Crag, approaching from Walna Scar, where they joined the queue with several other parties - the crag was quite busy. Sab & Steve did Eliminate A (with a brief but unsuccessful deviation onto Isengard to escape the crowds). Sheena and Neville did a Murrays Route/Murrays Direct Route combination followed by Gordon and Craig's Route.

Jim & Judith, who had arrived a couple of days early and been climbing on Wallowbarrow on Friday, went for a walk up the gorge. Pete Walker had been for a scramble, and a few other kmc arrived throughout Saturday.

The Newfield Inn was as usual an excellent venue, for food, beer and a lock-in if you wanted - although I think most kmc types opted for the early bed. The rain promised for Saturday arrived around closing time and lasted until Sunday morning. Some went for walks and others attempted to find some dry rock to climb on the way home - I think unsuccessfully. However I had a good time and I hope everyone else did too. Thanks to everyone for coming on this meet.


31st Aug / 1st Sept - Mysterious Welsh Rock - Al Metelko

Saturday: The Twilight Zone (Eglwyseg Valley).

Present: Sheena Hendrie, Sean Kelly, Rick Davies, Roger Dyke, James Richardson and myself.

What a superb crag in a superb setting. Lots of routes done ranging from HS to E2 on some of the best limestone in the country. I encountered only one foot hold that could be described as polished.

Sunday: Llanymynech and Carreg y Byg (Welsh sounding but alas in England!).

Present: Dave Dillon Kevin Anderson, Sabina Cosulich, Duncan Lee, James Richardson. Roger Dyke and myself.

Having visited Llanymynech one evening some 4/5 years ago I've wanted to get back and do Black Wall (E2) (Duncan/Sabina) Unfortunately after repeating the fantastic three pitch Blind Faith (VS) (Dave/James and Kevin/Me) (Roger seemed a little overwhelmed by the place) the mid-day sun was quite intense on the black rock. I could see that my enthusiasm for the place was not shared and a decision was made to move on to Carreg y Byg. This quarry is much smaller in height and the initial impression was not good being hidden in a wood, in a hole and the rock surface seemed to be covered in a carpet of moss and lichen. On finding and climbing, the routes turned out be well worth seeking out and many where done. It must be mentioned that Duncan did a fine job of cleaning routes (a must if climbing in Cheedale) including the top of Concave Wall (E1, 5c) and setting up a lower off allowing many leads of this fine route. Since at the end of the day the mobile café Hotel Grün wasn't serving, so a few of us crossed the border into mysterious Wales in search of a pub and grub but that's another story.

Thanks to all who came for making the weekend an enjoyable experience.


8th September - Dovestones/Ravenstones Meet - Viginia Castick

Members: Sheena Hendrie, Neville McMillan, Roger Dyke, John Castick, Virginia Castick, Joanne Castick, Dave Wylie, Frank Williams, Margaret Williams, Rob Allen, Rob Clarke, Lester Payne, Jim Symon, Al Metelko, John Evans, James Richardson, Fiona Roy, Martin Heaton, Dave Dillon, Dave Garland, Rick Davies, Mark Ashley, Duncan Lee, Sabina Cosulich, Kevin Anderson, Iain Mcallum, Ken Beetham (rumoured to be in the area and demanding a tick).

Guests: Teresa Paradis, Shane & Jackie, Daniel?, Simon Bastow, Joanne Hampson, Gill Stephens.

This turned out to be a classic day on gritstone. Sunny conditions ensured a good turnout and the lack of a car park ticket machine was an added bonus. No, I didn't take a sledgehammer to it the night before but obviously somebody had. A 25 minute stroll uphill took us to the top of Dovestones edge where we sat in the sun and admired the clear view. The climbs were in the shade but the crag was dry if a little dirty in places and the rocks were soon plastered with KMC teams, many visiting the crag for the first time.

I was very impressed with the variety and quality of the routes. My new guidebook gives stars so making it easier to choose the plums. By mid-afternoon it was time to stroll across the tops to Ravenstones. Here there was less choice of routes and the whole crag seemed more intimidating, partly due to the very steep ground below. Members of the KMC in the 40's were prominent in developing these crags and one of Derek Seddon's photos, taken on a typical gritstone day, is the frontpiece in my 1965 guidebook.

We finished the day by walking down to the overflow tunnel entrance below the crag. On the way down we were amazed by the damage done to the streambeds by floods earlier in the summer. Huge amounts of water must have come down turning the rocks white and shifting massive quantities of silt and monster boulders. Fortunately the streams were quiet on Sunday so the planned return through the mile long tunnel took place. Ten of us went through. A few people resorted to paddling through whilst others tiptoed along the slippery edge. It was quite awkward to keep your feet out of the stream in the middle, but only one of us fell in didn't they, Joanne. Mark kindly walked round with a rope to help us out as the exit iron ladder is missing. When Duncan came through we removed the rope but he had no trouble in climbing the vertical stonework unaided.

Weather, rock, company and shortcut home made for a fantastic day, I hope you all had as good a time as me.


21st/22nd September - Ty Powdyr, Joint Meet with FRCC - Mark Garrod

Members: Mark Garrod, Michelle Harvie, Colin Maddison, Jim Gregson, Bob Anderson, Al Metelko, Keith Williams, Sandy Gregson, Duncan Lee, Sabina Cosulich, Dave Bone, Pete Williams, Kevin Anderson, Joanne Castick, Robert Clark, Rob Allen, Roger Dyke.

Potential members: Gill Stephens, Jo Farrington, Mark Heslop, Ian Crook, Scott Sadler, Roisin Maddison.

Guests: Dave Kenyon, Paul Whitfield, Alan Wheeler.

What a fine weekend we had! The September drought continued and gave us some sunshine, and the KMC responded magnificently with a very widespread coverage of classic routes and locations in North Wales.

I guess Cloggy has to be Top of the Pops simply due to its rarity value. Scott, Ian and Mark H bivied out under Cloggy on Friday night, bagged Vember on Saturday, then, given the need for not over-exerting themselves, retreated to the hut. Sabs, Dunc, Dave B and Dave K also hit Cloggy on Saturday, with Vember, Curving Crack, Cloggy corner, and (I'm told) most impressively, Boldest (led by Dave K).

Sandy and Jim did Ridge route on Lliwedd. Bob's Braves (Gill, Joanne, M&M) braved a mountain day with him, and were rewarded with various Parson's noses, Gambit route, and a return over Crib Goch.

Team Williams did Amphitheatre Buttress on Friday, and Bryants gully on Saturday. Tremadoc hosted Robert and Rob both days, and finally, a normal day was how Al described Gogarth, visited with Kev, Alan, Paul and Jo.

Not surprisingly, Saturday evening was lively, with an impromptu slide show so that Dave K could see what Duncan had been doing whilst belaying him in the Alps.

Sunday continued where Saturday left off, with the majority heading off to Tremadoc due to the clouds being a bit more threatening. It was sunny there though! Not sure what everyone else did.

Great fun was had by all - all except the Fell and Rock, who unfortunately didn't turn up (Bob's KMC for this one) - a real shame, as we would love to strengthen the links between the clubs at the grass roots level.

Finally, if anyone left a pair of Zamberlan size 40 brown leather walking boots at the hut, there not there, I've got them. Also, they need a dubbin!


5th/6th October - Ty Powdwr Working Meet - Iain McCallum

Members: Bob. Anderson, John Castick, Virginia Castick, Jim. Gregson, Sandy Gregson, Iain McCallum, Lester Payne, Jim. Taylor, Chris.Thickett, Alan Wylie.

Guests: David McCallum, Pam. McCallum.

Another successful working party. The weather most agreeable - beautiful on Friday, awful on Saturday, glorious on Sunday! Ten tons of gravel and various building materials were delivered on Friday afternoon. Many of the tasks planned for the hut, paddock and track were completed. Chris inspected the septic tank.and reported that the level was down below the overflow pipe. The tank is leaking so the filter system is not working as it should. This does not constitute a major problem but the situation needs to be kept under review. Chris also carried out an inspection underneath the hut and found it dry.

Tasks accomplished :

Elidir Fawr
- Front window recess plastered and painted - Iain and David Curtain rail installed and and openers fitted to the three trap doors in the floor - David - Door and frame fitted between Elidir Fawr and Glyder Fawr - Jim G. and Alan

Crib Goch
- Masonry pointed prior to painting - Jim T. Lester and Sandy

Dorm. Hall
- Skirting board installed - Bob and Chris

Main hall
- Skirting board fitted to two of the walls - Bob and Chris

Gents
- Cubicle walls and doors painted - Iain and Virginia

Ladies
- Cubicle doors painted - Virginia

Paddock
- Bracken strimmed - John.

Track
- Gully at the middle gate reprofiled - Alan, Jim and Sandy G. Potholes filled, verges repaired and strimmed - John and Lester

Trees
- Trees thinned and new supports fitted to some trees in the paddock - Iain and David

Cleaning
- Cooking equipment and storage area cleaned - Pam. - Gents washroom floor and toilets cleaned - Iain

Catering
- Lunch and tea breaks - Pam

Many thanks to everyone for all their hard work over the weekend.


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