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Karabiner Mountaineering Club

July 2003 Meet Reports


30th June 2002 - Froggatt Edge - Heather Brooke!

Members: Rob Allen, Bob Anderson, Mark Ashley, Ken Beetham, Susan Brooke, Midge and Joanne Castick, Andrew Croughton, John Dobson, Roger Dyke, Joe Flynn, Dave Garland, Martin Heaton, Sheena Hendrie, Duncan Lee, Colin Maddison, Neville McMillan, Lester Payne, Zoe Talks, Pete Walker, Dave Whittingham

Guests: Roisin Maddison, Kate Flynn, Lynn Tomlinson, Mick and Pete?

Not only did I have to act as meet leader in her absence (walking in the Lake District, what kind of excuse is that!) I now find myself having to write the meet report. Unfortunately because it was so long ago my memory is somewhat hazy, although I distinctly remember my fall off Heather Wall. The day was dry and cold with occasional gusts of wind, which apparently made the more balancy routes such as Three Pebble Slab more difficult, or that was the excuse Sheena used this time when asking for a top rope. However given the conditions Joannes lead of Grey Slab was very impressive, with John, who tried to follow Joanne and Midge up the route, having to ask for a top rope also. Sheena realised that this was definitely not her day when attempting the vital move on Tody's Wall, with the usual hackling audience, she realised that she had not tied on properly. The stand in meet leader was most impressed by the latest generation of parents' ingenuity in controlling children, by hanging them up from the nearest tree and leaving them. This especially got my approval as it freed Colin to give me a top rope on a few routes. Whilst I thought it was a wonderful idea I wasn't sure what the RSPCC would make of it! The usual joviality and lighthearted banter ensued and it appeared that a good day was had by all that attended.

I would like to thank everybody on my daughter's behalf for supporting her meet!

Susan Brooke


10th/14th February - Alex MacIntyre Hut (mid-week meet) - John Evans

After a weekend meet of poor weather (windy & what little ice/snow there was melting), only two of us were left at the hut with half a dozen scowling, unemployed mountain guides for company. Never mind. During the following few days, the weather improved but there was still no snow, and most winter crags were reportedly very lean indeed. Richard (a complete novice) and myself (sometimes I put my crampons on the right feet) elected to walk up a few hills and generally relax. Our adventures, such as they were included the Ballachulish ridge, Bidean nam Bian & Stob coire Sgreamaich, Stob Ban and a very wet walk from Glen Nevis up to the Steall falls - the one with the hilarious bridge of 3 wires... Also included was a jaunt to Ardnamurchan Point, where some fine views of the Isles were to be had, not to mention inviting glimpses of the hills & crags of Ardgour.

Understandably we were very thirsty at night, and consequently we had the breakfast facilities to ourselves after everyone else had gone. The reasons why most of those who booked to attend this meet never made it were obscure indeed, so much so that other than an alleged incident involving a dinnerplate and a long reach, I cannot recall them. Gullible as I am, I shall return to the Scottish Hills next February.


Sun 16th March - Peak District Walk - Iain McCallum

Members : Linda Crossley, Joe Flynn, Alan (H) Jones, Alan (L) Jones, Iain McCallum, Lorna Marsland, Lester Payne, Alan Peck, Phil Ramsbottom, Jim Taylor, Chris Thickett, Peter Walker, Nigel Rosenbaum, Frank Williams, Margaret Williams, Keith Williams (16)

Guests: Peter Harrison, Zoe Rosenbaum, Harry Rosenbaum (aged 2), Dave Swindlehurst. (4)

The weather forecast was accurate for once - the walk was blessed bright sunny weather all day. After assembling at Hope Station we crossed the fields to Aston and then climbed up the track to the top of Whin Hill. The views from the top were fabulous - Eastern Edges, Derwent valley, Kinder and Bleaklow all lay before us. After a short pit stop we tramped along the ridge to Crookstone Barn. Just before this point Alan(L), Peter, Frank and Margaret decided to take the lower route to Hollins Cross via Jaggers Clough and Backtor Bridge.

The main party carried on along the southern edge of Kinder before dropping down towards Edale below Ringing Roger. We were well spread out by this time, so some Joe, Chris, Keith and Lester had lunch at the The Nag's Head while the main party lunched on a knoll above Edale. On the Knoll young Harry grew quite bold for a while until Alan(H)'s dog barking brought about his rapid retreat into Zoe's arms.

Across the valley, hang gliders and para gliders floated in the gentle breeze above Mam Tor and Rushup Edge. Down in the valley the cars sparkled in the sun light. Despite the crowds, the bar in the Nag's Head was strangely quiet and drinks could be had immediately. Where was everyone?

At Edale, Peter Harrison, Zoe and Harry left us travelling back by train. The rest of us made for Hollins Cross on the old pack horse trail from Edale to Castleton. Linda joined joined us at the Cross. From there we followed the ridge to Back Tor and Lose hill. A very busy route. It was pretty windy by the time we reached Lose Hill so we had to hunker down in a hollow below the summit for our break. Our descent took us down past Lose Hill farm to the valley then across the river Noe at Killhill bridge. From the bridge we walked along the river and then for a short stretch along the road back to Hope Station.

A very enjoyable meet. Distance about 13 miles.

Thanks for your support.

Congratulation to Lester who travelled to the meet by train!


3rd/5th May - Ty-Powder, Birthday Meet - Neville McMillan

THE OLD GIT'S BIG DAY

Members: Neville McMillan (meet leader and septuagenarian), Joe Flynn (President), Iain McCallum, Peter Walker, Keith Williams, Rob Allen, Sue Brooke, Rick Davies, John Dobson, Dave Garland, Mark Garrod, Michelle Harvie, Sheena Hendrie (home help), Lester Payne, James Richardson, Mary Stuart, Chris Thickett, Dave Wylie, Anne Sanderson, Scott Sadler.

Guests: Steve Cannotreadhisname, Mark Binham, Fred Hall (DMM).

The Bank Holiday Weekend was punctuated with deluges of such biblical proportions that it would not have been a surprise if Noah and his air-sea rescue unit had turned up. Instead he sent his mate Methuselah, sometimes known as Neville, the Henry Kissinger of European Mountain Safety, to be guest of honour.

To celebrate this milestone of his reaching the proverbial three score and ten, I had previously visited the birthday card shops of Bury to obtain a suitable badge for our mate to inform the world that 'I AM AN OLD GIT' but the genteel lady assistants politely apologised that they could not accede to such a request. Moreover, I was moved to complain to them that the cards on display with '70 years old today' seemed to be targeted at old dodderers and completely unsuitable for a jet-setter still willing to hang by his eyebrows on the steepest cliffs of Europe - Well! As long as it was not raining!

The day of his birthday (Saturday) dawned in splendour causing the assembled young enthusiasts to jump out of bed whilst the more elderly fell over their zimmer frames looking for their glasses - no names mentioned! Everything was all in vain when breakfast was completed and the first bout of indigestion struck, as the sky had already become overcast although I admit it was still dry.

So what does the average 70-year-old do on his birthday? Correct! He goes rock climbing. Naturally! So even though our old boy sported a bad shoulder - must be rheumatism at his age - he gamely set off to do his duty.

Sheena acted as rock climbing leader, home help and geriatric nurse by watching his knot tying, straightening his collar and checking his flies were fastened.

You have really got to hand it to Sheena for her patience:- "Now then, Mr McMillan! Can we reach this hold? Careful! Careful! Just take your time! But not too long 'cos time's not really on your side, is it?"

They chose 'Crackstone Rib' on the Wastad as a suitable route for the day but it already had occupants when they arrived and Sheena's threats failed to scare them off (must be losing her touch!) so instead they decided on 'Skylon'. Sheena led up the first pitch in the dry but the rain started as Neville climbed so he had to do the crux in the wet as if to punish him for all his sins over the last seventy years. Thus a moist retreat was then executed under auspices of divine retribution.

In the meantime James, Scott and Rob drove to Tremadoc to meet the coming of the rain when Eric's Cafe provided a reasonable alternative to the crag. However, later on Scott led the group up the sheltered 'Striptease' before they returned to Pete's Eats. Isn't it is good to know that climbing traditions are being maintained?

Rick and Mark looked for better weather out at Gogarth.

Keith, Iain, Peter and Chris headed over to Croesor for a walking circuit that included Cnicht and some cnichting ridges. In the hut book our ageless meet leader referred to our group as the 'Music Hall' team which at first glance I thought to be defamatory but then realised he must really appreciate the high quality of our jokes after all. Therefore, I decided not to make a song and dance about it.

In the evening Neville kindly invited us all to join him in the hut lounge to sample a crate of red wine appropriately named 'Old Git', pleasant enough even though it stretched the term 'vintage', and for his own preparations of excellent savouries and fish pate. This latter was supplemented by toast supplied by the home help.

After the meal, we enjoyed a very genial evening, at which KMC loungers seem to be most expert, providing the old git - whoops, I'm sorry - the venerable gentleman with a very satisfying celebration.

On an unsettled Sunday Neville joined Iain, Peter and myself for some excellent jokes and a short yet enjoyable walk round the Padarn Lake. After a sojourn in a tea shop, we visited the 'Electric Mountain' centre where we admired photographs of ancient quarry workers, some nearly as old as Neville himself. Observing one of the photos I wondered what the woman in the picture did! Peter, of course, knew her name and that of her mother as well as her grandmother's too I should imagine - and what they would all be doing next Saturday night.

The President himself took a bunch of his followers on a walk somehow linking Llyn Peris with the Snowdon track.

Sheena, Rick, Dave and Mark went to Gogarth (cold but dry) where the latter two inadvertently created a new route to be named either 'Head Banger' or 'Bloody Nose'; the climb included a 75 feet pitch of 45 degrees mud. It is still waiting a second ascent. Rick and Sheena had more sober excitement on 'Bezel'.

The big story of the day was the ascent of 'Devil's Kitchen' by Scott and James which they described as excellent (?) with a fantastic atmosphere intensified by green slime. Listen lads:- you are not going to live to seventy if you go out on the mountains and get wet!

Michelle hung on until two-thirty when the rain started to complete a water-cooled run. Another one who does not know what is good for her!

On Monday morning the cloud was down to ground level with wall-to-wall rain (well, it was Bank Holiday Monday!) and a horror-struck meet leader led a panicking exodus back home. Only Rick, Dave G, Scott and Mark B remained to see through to the midday sunshine although it seems more crag-lounging than climbing was achieved. Rick and Dave did go to Castle Inn where they parked at the crag and walked to the pub. I hope I got that right way round. Anyway, as I said before it is good to see all KMC traditions kept up.

Good luck! Neville! Here's to the next seventy!

Chris Thickett - News at Seventy - Llanberis.


10th/11th May - Ty-Powder, Working Party - Chris Thickett

Present: Iain and Pam McCallum, Virginia and John Castick, Frank and Margaret Williams, Dave Wylie, Alan Wylie, Lester Payne, John Evans, James Richardson, Dave Dillon, Andrew Croughton, Bob Anderson, Chris Thickett.

Guess what? Another very successful working meet despite the meet leader getting his weather mixed up. And despite him turning up to organise the events.

The sunny Saturday enabled all the outside jobs to be completed in the day. In the morning a road gang under the foremanship of Andrew repaired the track and altered the surface drainage near the black gate. Lester set about pointing up the car park walls after breathing life into the old concrete mixer. Frank fixed the leaking gutters to the front of the building.

The wall menders all get a special mention. Dave D and Andrew are awarded high marks for their skill and John E and James for artistic impression. All their hard work, and that of John C who strimmed the whole of the mountainside, left our property looking remarkably smart. We'll be winning awards next! Iain also got into the act repairing a section of the boundary wall.

The Wylie brothers set about solving a blocked drain under the track with their hi-tech expertise. This resulted in abject failure and they eventually succeeded with some lo-tech dig and thrutch that saw them finish after 9 o'clock. Dave W had earlier fixed the sticking door between the two lower dormitories. Virginia varnished all bare wood and anything else that did not move.

The big job inside was the plaster repairs to the wall of the upper dormitory which had been damaged by water leaking in. This was undertaken by Uncle Bob who discovered this leak was caused by some shoddy workmanship way back in 1879. Anybody seen the guarantee? He spent the day repairing the deep holes in the slate wall and then sealing the corresponding gable wall on the outside of the building.

Iain and Pam provided us with an appetising lunch and tea breaks. Pam and Margaret organised the distribution of the new bedding articles and undertook many specific cleaning and washing jobs.

On Sunday nearly everybody went out on the hill walking or climbing although heavy showers made conditions more unpleasant than Saturday. Climbers had to head out to the west to dodge the rain. Only Iain, Pam and Lester stayed at the hut to clean windows and carry out tree maintenance, etc. On returning to the hut, Bob spent a long evening putting on a couple of coats of plaster to the repairs upstairs.

On Monday morning Bob completed the final plaster skim before another sunny day saw us enjoying four interesting although not very strenuous routes on the slabs of Little Tryfan.

Thanks to all the workers for their hard work, enthusiasm and companionship.


Sun 18th May - Wilton Quarry/Wilton Walk - Mark Ashley/Keith Williams

Wicked Wilton Walk

Members present: Sue Brooke, Dan Creber, John Dobson, Jim Gregson, Sandy Gregson, Alan (L'pool) Jones, Lorna Marsland, Lester Paine, Phil Ramsbattom, Dave Sumerfield, Chris Thickett, Peter Walker.

Guest present: Kate Sparks

We came, we walked - dodging between most of the showers - and apart from a few folks who hadn't had enough after 12 miles, arrived back together at the car park 5½ hours later. The others soon caught up.

The only minor incident of the day was a discussion with some trail riders who were advised that they were on a footpath without a vehicular right of way and who turned round and rode off very reasonably after a bit of huffing and puffing from one of their numbers.

Keith Williams


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