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March 2008 Meet Reports


December 15th/16th - Christmas Bash - Trish Cranston & Michelle Harvie

Present: Well fed members/guests, a few pounds of carrots, lots of sunshine, except for some shady climbs.

A wonderful sunny Saturday morning lured us onto the wintry hills. Kate and Dave ran over the Glyders, although some enjoyed (endured) a chilly days climbing out of the sun (Kevin & Liam, Al, Andy & Chris). There was some concern as Trish and I (the organisers) set out with a map and compass, heading towards Snowdon. Would we be back in time to prepare the meal? Or with my navigational skills would we get back before Christmas?! We had left Ken to chop about 15 pounds of vegetables, which seemed to keep him busy for the next 2½ hrs.

To the relief of the KMC, Trish & I returned at 5.00pm after a great day on the hill. Whilst dinner was prepared the assembled group were entertained by Duncan's cryptic quiz and alcoholic mince pies and Kirsten's mulled wine. Kirsten was still thawing out after an ice cold shower, since the hut hot water was not working again. Dinner was served at 8.00pm, afterwards clear skies permitted a spot of star gazing tuition with Dave W.

Sunday was just as sunny and frosty. There was a team walk up Elider Fawr & Y Garn, whilst Duncan Vicky, Al & Dave K went looking for ice on the Black Ladders.

Dave W made the most of a few days holiday and enjoyed 2 fine days walking on Monday & Tuesday the following week:

Monday: The Snowdon Horseshoe including several Brocken Spectres and force 7 winds on the top of Snowdon. Dave encountered a group carrying a very large paddle to the summit (so this is what folks get up to when we are all at work).

Tuesday: An icy interesting scramble on North Ridge of Tryfan, Bristly Ridge, the Glyders and down via the Devil's Kitchen.

Thanks to all for coming to the Christmas Bash and making it a fun weekend. Thanks to all the superb chefs for your excellent cooking, especially Ken for his chopping and to Dave W for resurrecting the hot water and saving most of us from very icy showers. Great weather, activities, company, food and wine. We even managed to raise £55 for the hut relief fund.


January 13th - Pendle Broomstick tour - Dave Bone

Present: Dave Bone, Dave Shotton, Iain McCallum, Phil Ramsbottom, Chris Thickett, James Hoyle, Lester Payne, Jim Gregson, Sandy Gregson, John Dobson, Dave Wylie, (Dave Bish on Flyby).

Twas a dull grey January Morn that the intrepid meet leader drove his rusting chariot under the grim portals of the windswept Padiham heights car-park to find a group of KMC carts huddled together, drivers mostly inside. Such dull transport, single ticks for a stout band of KMC, fearing the worst after days of storm. Shortly before departure, the throng were blessed by the short appearance of the Bish. Not of the group, he was going to run/fly round after some work in his carriage. An inaudible fanfare and the gaily waterproofed assembly splashed their way up the road.

A slight correction of aim deep in the woods, and we were back on the farm tracks - which way - the white or the yellow arrows? Take the white and cross the thundering thoroughfare into the fields. Yes, into, if only we too had the power of flight, but nay, we had feet of clay. Underfoot was inadequately described as 'soft', and pitiful attempts of drainage were crossed, eyes ahead on the aiming point of a metal 'tree'. With relief the group gained the relative safety of a cart track and turned hard right - solid ground at least somewhere under the surface. On like chattering starlings, the bulk of Pendle Hill ahead, thrusting into the rapidly moving blanket of grey.

No stopping this group of witch-hunters, without a glance into the sheltering ravines for a snack-stop, we swept across the Sabden Super-highway and onto the ridge. Perhaps because a strong wind was behind them? Conversing merrily, oblivious to the terrain, and so making good time, we followed a black path over the rise and into the backside of Pendle hill (Barley moor - though no self-respecting grain would grow here). Following the water-course the hunters were deeply involved in the ups and downs of a slaistery trail so were startled by a yellow apparition overhauling them on the left. It was the Bish (of suspect mortality) on a fly past. With an accusation of the group having exceeded the speed limit, amid an expectation of an earlier meeting, this apparition drew ahead and steadily faded into the gloom.

A quick snack cum lunch stop in the minuscule shelter of a tumbled wall, and then it was on the grey-slabbed road to the summit. The Trig point offered no hospitality, nor shelter from the spirits shrieking into the group's ears and pushing them about. No Broomsticks were seen, though in the close visibility there could have been a whole squadron of Witches above our heads for all we knew. However, I understand that Broomsticks aren't very controllable in high winds so the Broomsticks, or their modern equivalent, were likely grounded some miles away. The team at this point had their feet firmly (well, just about) on the ground. A slight hint of drizzle in the air, but not wet in the same league as days before.

Leaving the spirits behind temporarily, the team swept off the hill and bounced uneasily down the cobbled trail slanting down the escarpment face. At some point we must have missed seeing the Hero Duncan and fair lady Vicky on the hill, the demons having drawn a grey veil between us. In procession round the hill, and lo, an evilly erected wall in front of us. The Evil ones weren't going to stop a team of climbing hunters though, and so with obstacle tackled head on, we gathered for a restorative banquet on a quaint wall bridging the valley, constructed by the good burghers of the town for their watery needs.

The homeward stretch now, a steady climb onto Spence Moor, and then it was just a case of choosing a way off. With much wending about, the hamlet of Sabden hove into view. A minor altercation - follow the walled track or the signed path, settled by the leader finally striding down the track, and so the heroic group clattered into Sabden. The temptations of the flesh were ignored and with jaws set the group strode out of the village past the hostelries.

The team straggled back to the transportation, after a last uphill flog, in good time with daylight left (uncharacteristic for the leader). Disappointment at no sighting of the yellow clad Warlock Bish - the car park puddles could have been pressed into service as ducking pools? Thanks to all the plain ordinary humans who came along - may all your witch-hunts be successful.


January 20th - Lake District Walk - James Hoyle

The weather prior to this event had been pretty dire with gallons of rain falling over the previous week. However the forecast for the Sunday ended up being fairly good and it looked like a promising day as Kasia, me and my dad set off for Rydal. Quite a few others obviously thought so too and a group of 14 of us headed off up the steep path towards Heron Pike, including Trudie Young with a group of fellow walkers. The clouds were high enough at this point to allow good views down to Rydal Water, Grasmere and Windermere. By the time we reached the next top of Great Rigg it was time for coffee and for the clouds to close in around us. At this point Dave Bish suddenly sprinted past promising to catch us up as he accelerated away to complete a round of Fairfield that also included Seat Sandal and Helvellyn.

Nab Scar Light drizzle began to fall and it was pretty cold as we made our way up to Fairfield's summit. Things soon heated up however as Midge found a pair of discarded lady's knickers but the damsel in distress was nowhere to be seen so we left them on top of the summit cairn in case she came to look for them later! A few snowy patches filled the gullies at the edges of the summit plateau and it took little persuasion to convince everyone that this windswept place was not the place for lunch. Being slightly disorientated on the summit I took one trusty look at my map and compass and I was off? in totally the wrong direction! Before I even had a chance to say "scenic route" Chris Thickett spotted my deliberate error and we were soon back on track.

Buckstone's Jump It was a cloudy, speedy romp over Dove Crag and High Pike and the decision was taken to head down the valley side to take a look at Buckstone's Jump, which is well worth the detour if you've not seen it before. A natural rock dam sort of blocks the river causing it to flow off to one side and down a small waterfall before continuing on its way. After leaping a few fences we were back at Rydal Hall and most of those assembled popped into the Badgers Bar for a spot of light refreshment. Dave Bish got back at this point enabling me to conclusively prove I hadn't lost anyone on the first meet I have led.

It was a good walk, with good company and I hope everyone enjoyed themselves.

Members Present: Dave Wylie, Phil Ramsbottom, Chris Thickett, Virginia Castick, Lester Payne, Dave Bish, Trudie Young, James Hoyle, Kasia Hoyle.

Guests Present: Mark Heslop, Steve Hoyle (Dad), Len Klejnow, Mike, Alan, Caroline. (Sorry about surnames but pen stopped working on damp paper)


Saturday January 26th - Peak District Walk - James Richardson

No report from the meet leader but Dave Bone writes:

Members Present: James (Dave for a Day) Richardson, Dave Shotton, Dave Wylie & Dave Bone.

Maybe the numbers were reduced by a late announcement of a Saturday meet, and then again by finding mid-week a double road closure of Rushup Edge and the Snake. Actually the former was open, but Car 1 arrived in good time for the meet and a cold wait in a bus shelter - only for a further breakdown in the plans. "James - I get the impression that there isn't a Bus on a Saturday?" looking at the encoded timetable. Change of plans - up the east side of the reservoirs, follow the Derwent to its very head, then up to Bleaklow Head through the groughs. Looking back, not much of the party was visible. Ah, a mountain Hare? no, it's Dave Wylie. Black Sheep? Yes and No it's Dave for a Day. Dave S , no, a Raven. Then back along the top of Alport Castles with an extremely irritating, gusty side-wind.

Once back at the cars, it is pronounced a good circuit, though not without strained muscles from the Battle with the wind.


February 2nd/3rd - Ty Powder Meet - Richard Yorke

Members: Richard Yorke, Roger Daley, Al Metelko, Dave Wylie, James Hoyle, Mark Ashley.

Guests: Annie, Heckler the Cocker Spaniel.

When I volunteered to lead my first KMC meet at the club hut I wasn't entirely sure what the weekend would hold. So many possibilities coupled with so many uncertainties. We could do a winter traverse of Snowdon Horseshoe but would there be any snow? We could bag a couple of routes on Trinity Face but would there be any ice? We could enjoy some fine malt whisky in the hut's fabulous, wooden lounge but would there be any glass in the door of the stove enabling us to light the fire and keep the room warm? And playing in the back of my mind all along was whether or not anyone would actually turn up. After all, since becoming a dad for the first time back in September, I'd not managed to get down to the pub to recruit people for the meet and the forecast for Snowdonia didn't look as promising as in the other National Parks. So with all this uncertainty and doubt I set my expectations low and hoped for the best.

Yet I needn't have worried. What did happen on the meet, whilst unlikely to go down in the annals of KMC history as epoch-making, countered all my trepidation and then some with what proved to be a fantastic weekend.

There were two aspects to the meet. First and foremost, as with any KMC meet, was the mountaineering side which varied from ice climbing on Sinister Gully, to walking the Carneddau, through to being blown up and along a couple of easy rock climbs. Secondly, to help with the upkeep of the hut, there was a maintenance side to the meet which involved cleaning or repairing an item over and above the usual pots, pans and worktops with a prize going to the cleaner of the most unusual item.

When I arrived at the hut around 8:30pm on the Friday I was greeted by Al and Dave Wylie and given a rundown of all the jobs undertaken by Dave during the course of the afternoon. Keen to win the spoils for the most obscure item cleaned, not to mention his commitment to keeping the hut in good working order, Dave W had completed a number of tasks before I arrived that were varied, certainly unusual and there were plenty of them to boot.

The table below shows the extent of Dave's toils. I've added in a grading system that most of you will be familiar with to demonstrate both the overall difficulty and in some cases the technicality of the job. The jobs have also been given a star rating to show just how unusual some of them were.

Oiled the Gas Store padlock. Diff *
Unblocked Gent's urinals pipework. This was almost completely blocked up. Quite how I dread to imagine. Clearing it involved complete disassembly of the traps and clearing of the pipes. You really don't want any details of what came out! E3 6a

Unlikely to be repeated any time soon!

*** (Classic!)
Strip-light in Gent's loo. Unit disassembled revealing melted starter Charred remains cleaned out and replaced. VS 4c **
Miscellaneous electrical work.

Circuit breakers tested and labelled. Note - one 16 amp circuit couldn't be identified.

Emergency Lighting tested and worked fine

Fuses for the trace heating on the water pipes checked - all OK.

Light bulb replaced in fitting above stairs

HVS 5a **
Drying room door was swollen back in Nov when the hut flooded. Door was taken off, trimmed down and re-hung so that it closed properly again. E1 5b ***

It goes without saying that Dave won the prize - a third or so of a bottle of 10 year old Macallan Fine Oak. Despite knowing the prize was already won, lots more useful jobs were carried out by everyone on the meet including various light bulb replacements, dorm cleaning, extractor fan cleaning and repair. Thanks to everyone for doing their bit. The hut was definitely left in a better state than when we arrived.

"But enough of all this talk of cleaning, this is a mountaineering club not the Mother's Union!" I hear you cry. So on to the outdoor stuff....

The snow that fell as I left home on Friday evening had all but gone by the time I had descended the mile downhill into Macclesfield and there was no trace of the white stuff when I arrived at the hut. So, with nobody able to gauge what the conditions would hold, a plan was hatched to try Trinity Face on Snowdon under the assumption that, as a north facing buttress, if anywhere was to be cold enough for some winter routes that would be the place. To make the day more interesting we extended our plans to include a walk into Cwm Glas, up along Clogwyn Y Person, then round the top of Garnedd Ugain and down to the col to position ourselves for the drop round and down to the foot of Trinity Face for a route to Yr Wydda (Snowdon summit). The homeward leg would take us off the summit by the Llanberis path and the nameless ridge to the north of Cwm Glas and back to the car. A great and full day in anyone's book and you'd have thought the planning would stop there.

However, not content with a ridge scramble, winter climb and the two highest peaks in Snowdonia and encouraged by a couple of glasses of Old Stubby and a wee dram or two, a zany twist was added to the plan. Al figured that if we awoke at 4am and started the day at 4:45am we could be back at the hut for breakfast and an hour's kip before hitting the slate quarries for an afternoon of sport climbing. Now I can't remember if we ever agreed to this but when I awoke with a thick head at 7am and realised I was the first up I knew we would be doing the more modest, original plan.

So after a hearty brekkie by all Al, James, Dave and I headed off to the Llanberis pass to start our outing and Annie, Roger and Heckler headed off up the Carneddau. James got in touch with Mark who aimed to catch us up somewhere in the Cwm Glas.

The weather was OK but not particularly cold so we set our expectations accordingly and took just the one rope and a basic set of gear between the four of us. We almost left the rope behind, assuming (wrongly as it turned out) that the routes wouldn't be in nick and that a straight forward scramble would be as difficult as the day would get. Had we not decided at the last minute to pack one just in case we would have all been somewhat annoyed at an opportunity missed.

On arrival at Cwm Glas we took the decision to climb up Parsley Fern rather than the ridge of Clogwyn Y Person. The wind had definitely got up and the ridge would have been getting the worst of it. Not only that, the frozen gully looked a more exciting proposition as there seemed to be some good ice glistening in the otherwise grey light of day. We donned our crampons, got out our axes and used the time James needed to work out how to fit his shiny new spikes to grab some food and a hot drink.

Replenished and ready for action we headed up the lower left part of Parsley Fern at which point Al picked out the silvery line of Sinister Gully which to our amazement looked to be in condition. We soloed up to the grade IV pitch at which point we roped up and Al led the way up the short steep section, bringing the rest of us safely up after him in various styles of ascent! We de-roped for the top couple of pitches and eventually found our way wearily to the summit of Garnedd Ugain and into the teeth of a vicious Sou'Westerly bringing with it biting frozen snow and thick cloud. We didn't hang about. Abandoning any plans to carry on to Trinity face we headed quickly off the summit plateau and down out of the cloud and wind, through the rain and back to the car. A great mountain day, if a little shorter than planned.

Whilst this was going on Roger, Annie and Heckler had been blown around the Carneddau and Mark had got up to Cwm Glas and played about on various bits of ice below the rest of us.

Evening time saw plenty of good food cooked and super, homemade cake devoured including my famous (well sort of) Gingerbread and a delicious Lemon Cake from Kasia who was unfortunately too under the weather to come on the meet as planned. Lots of whisky was drunk and tall tales told, getting taller and longer as the drams were downed. The forecast for Sunday was poor with 80 MPH winds predicted on higher ground, not a day for getting up high. Instead Mark, Dave and I headed down the Fachwen Lane to a small outcrop on the other side of the hamlet. The wind was pretty strong but that didn't stop us bagging a couple of easy routes before heading back to the hut for a spot of lunch to keep us going for the journey home. A fitting end to a great couple of days.


February 10th - Clwyd Hills Circuit - Dave Bone

Present: Dave Bone*, Dave Shotton*, Alan (L) Jones, Alan Peck*, Peter Walker, John & Virginia Castick, Alan (H) Jones* + Christine and the 2 Grand National Hellhounds(1/2 *), Brian Taylor*, Roger Dyke and Dave Wylie*. [* - completed full circuit].

And after the rain, came? Sunshine! The drive out from Manchester to Mold was under thick fog from the M6, but this was expected to dissipate. Pulling up the hill from Tafarn-y-Gelyn, we emerged into clear skies and brilliant sunshine, tendrils of mist retreating into the valley. I followed a car into the car-park at the pass - (L) Jones visiting old haunts but at a slower pace. A pleasant surprise - a pound fed the meter for a whole day, but note was taken of the advisability to return by 6pm. Car by car the KMC gathered and it got very confusing - it would seem that several walks were taking place though at the same time, and that 'we' shouldn't wait for any at the back. The sun now clear of the yardarm (Foel Fenlli), we strode forth out of the car park at the appointed hour with a burst of demonic howling (all canine, I think).

No gentle start, but straight up the hill, alleviated by a zig-zag or two. Instantly the pace was set up the dogs forging their way towards the front, humans in pleased or reluctant tow. Mud and canine strength were the undoing for Christine. However, the climb was short, emerging onto the hill fort of Foel Fenlli where we re-gathered for an extended stop (the dogs would have to be patient), and the extensive views in the clear, warm air. Fog was in some of the valleys and out to see, and above this the hills of Snowdonia and further south were crystal clear - enough to see little snow left in the gullies. Inadequate attempts were made by all to photograph the scene (but if you did succeed, why aren't they here?). Reluctant to leave, but a walk was to be done, so the leader forced the issue by striding off.

Moel Famau from the south
Blue Skies do happen - Moel Famau from the south [D. Bone].

Southwards steeply, thus stringing out the team, followed by a regroup at the foot by a dilapidated fence. Articles of clothing were removed as the temperature soared (for February). As the final members hove into sight, there was a mighty yelp as Midge made an electrifying discovery. Not so as innocent as the unlabelled fence appeared, the top wire had been casually lent on. The length of insulating pipe by the stile ought to have been a clue. Now attempting to navigate the fields, the party headed south eastwards. A number of bottleneck stiles, leapt with enthusiasm by one, less so after encouragement at the rear by the other canine member. Extendable arms would be useful, humans having a thought for the landing. The onwards route became less clear and the group were forced over the gate. While the leader attempted to fathom the Gordian knot, Alan was persuading the dogs to steeple-chase the gate. With "I don't want to see this" looks the party were astounded to see amid a scrabbling of limbs both Grand National entrants clear the gate, though the landing lacked finesse. By various devious routes the road was attained and the way became comparatively easier.

Looking South-east down the Clwyd Hills
Looking South-east down the Clwyd Hills [D.Bone].

In Limestone country now and after some not unpleasant, Snowdrop lined, road walking, it was into woods for the Northbound section. After an early lunch/late elevenses in a clearing, the walk resumed with the party strung out - at a poor pace of 2hours for the first ~3miles, the rate had to be stepped up, Peter and Alan (L) silently departing from the back on a shorter return option through the conifers back to the cars. As the trees weren't in leaf, the cave en-route was spotted and three 'ferrets' zipped into the depths. Nothing was flushed, and 3 bats were left sleeping, probably the fading "no access" sign was their protection. Into the bustling surrounds of Loggerheads and the party split into short version (teastop), and full version groups. So were the canines, and with unearthly howling, the 6 + 1 of team A stormed into the country-park on a mission (part A - to escape the madding crowds).

After some high-speed walking the level track ended at a river crossing on the turn left to Cilcain. Now on roads, the perils of dog leads were discussed - those that were extendable being vilified. You can keep the friction burns though. A final break at spot ht. 304 to check progress - much better, 2½ hours left for the final 5mi. Soon we were on the last steep pull onto the main ridge, dog to the fore as usual, and able to enjoy the easy procession onto Moel Famau.

Still quite mild with the sun low in the clear sky. Finally up the steps into the remnants of the Jubilee Tower on top, complete with indicator panels for the views.

With the sun low and a bite to the air, we left the summit on the uncomfortable stone path (with some determined to look up the history of the uncompleted summit tower [Started for the Golden Jubilee of George III]) for the final motorway mile. We picked up Roger on the way, who hadn't reached the summit because of an opportunity of deep conversation. Will cause embarrassment - tales of multiple tea stops were told on the downhill race. The sun set crisply below the serrated horizon - no Green Flash I'm afraid (never convincingly observed), and we were back at a still well occupied car park at 5:15, ahead of schedule. The Canines were disappointed at not having completed the full Clwyd hills traverse - maybe next time. My thanks to those who came out on a splendid day - a recharge from all the poor days that came before and those yet to come.

[I met Derek Walker (BMC) just before I got back to the car and he asked after KMC members. Alan (L).]

Snowdonia skyline at sunset
The Snowdonia skyline at sunset - what can you identify? [D. Bone].



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