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March 2010 Meet Reports


October 25th - Rivington Mountain Biking - Heather Brooke

Members: Heather Brooke, Sue Brooke, Pete Hughes, Joe Flynn, Dave Dillon, Jo and Mark Furniss (plus John Dobson).

As promised the sunshine was ordered and arrived on time. After a brief hello from John and his road bike it was a step climb up to the top of Rivington Pike followed by a gentle descend down to Yarrow reservoir. Followed by a gentle ride over the moor and down to the end of Anglezarke Reservoir. Fun was had by all watching Pete take fighting lessons after misjudging a bump on the way back to Rivington Barn Hall. Where we all had tea, cakes and a hot chocolate.


December 31st/January 3rd - Ty Powdwr New Year - Dave Bone

Members present: Dave Bone, Dave Wylie.

Someone should report on North Wales so at least you know what you missed. I drove out to Conwy on Friday lunchtime, no problems there, just for a couple of hours walk before continuing to the hut. Parking at Sychnant, I headed for Tal-y-fan across the frozen wastes. Fine going until the signs of human traffic were left behind, then it was hard going - little signs of the path and the soft powder snow was at the level of the Gorse bushes, and they didn't bear any more weight than the snow. Passing one walker giving up, I made height on the ridge side. Not long after brought to a halt by ever deepening snow, at waist height with the waving tips of tufted grass hinting at what was to come and a suspicious flat area on the starboard bow. About turn, for a laborious return over the moor, then off to the hut.

The road through Deiniolen was clear, but turned to rutted, packed snow-ice on the curve before Bus Stop (the circle was gritted for the buses). The side road beyond was as expected - a sheet of packed ice so left the car with several others off the turning circle, and proceeded to the hut on foot - the track was completely impassable by normal vehicles for the whole weekend. First person at the hut - somewhat surprising. Still, everything seemed to work and whilst cooking Dave turned up. Somewhere around 10, hopes of anyone else stomping in faded. A quiet party for two...

Saturday proceeded to start fine with good hopes of visibility on the tops so I went round to Ogwen, parking on the roadside below little Tryfan (Dave W later tried a circuit S from Ogwen). Headed E parallel to the A55, then crossed it in a snow shower, skirted the buildings then contoured the snowy hillside. Had intended heading for Pen Llthrig y Wrach, but the sight of the untracked snowy waste caused yet another trimming of ambitious plans. Reckoning on the ridge having thinner snow in the wind I overtook several parties on the long ridge to Pen-yr-Helgi Du. Yes the going was easier here and the views of snow covered hills were magnificent. Craig yr Ysfa looked fine but no signs of climbers - there was little ice about over the weekend, the snow had buried everything and locked it down at source with no thawing. However, watching the tentative approach of others on the descent to the col, I opted for crampons for a more efficient traverse (and a bit of a climb) over the head of Craig yr Ysfa. On now for Carnedd Llewelyn over deeper snow, the tops unfortunately now sitting in wind driven cloud. After wandering about on the flat top, as the wind filled it in, I failed to follow the supposedly well trodden way, so time for navigational practice, dropping off the rim and contouring round until the slope aspect led me off on the shallow ridge to Carnedd Dafydd. Somewhere round this as the light dimmed I checked the time and decided on a direct descent for Ogwen. Negotiating the very badly parked cars on the roadside I drove past Ogwen and returned to the hut by road and foot, finding Dave already there and no-one else.

Glyders panorama from Pen yr Helgi Du
Glyders panorama from Pen yr Helgi Du.

Not so good on Sunday with an overcast sky, stronger wind and a hint of a thaw on the way. Off through the Pass to the foot of the Watkin path I went, planning on a Southern version of the Snowdon Horseshoe (also too ambitious). Up the path to the waterfall, then cut NE across the stone bridge on a little used path that rose attractively through woods and contoured the slopes of Lliwedd. I was soon above the snowline and once more battling with the drifts. Immediately past the last mine buildings the drifts peaked, and I had to backtrack a few times. Eventually just below the top of Gallt y Wenallt, I came to a wall remnant, where, as the wind was now blasting ice spicules at one, it was a suitable time for lunch in its shelter. It had taken ~2 hours to get this far! Now the thoughts were of when would I turn back...

Onwards for Lliwedd, the cloud right down and not a soul to be seen (nor much else - just when was the ridge going to start?). Just as I hit the ridge and thought of heading straight home, the cloud lifted and the wind eased, revealing a wonderfully snow clad Lliwedd (no chance of Snowdon appearing though). Up to the first top and once again the crampons made for more efficient progress, meeting people for the first time, including a party bound together with ropes and very stationary (why?). They were still in the same spot as I bottomed on the col and the cloud came down again. I desultorily headed for Snowdon but a check of the time showed in the conditions that it'd be sunset by the earliest I could make it (even if possible), and that the continuation towards Yr Aran was totally out. Thus I decided to pick up the Watkin path and head down. However the path was completely buried - this side of the mountain was the dumping ground for all the wind blown snow and the slopes (what could be seen of them) were near continuous, soft snow. Rarely have I expended as much effort going downhill, just heading on a bearing for the valley floor - I doubt that many would have reached the summit this way. Somewhere near the bottom it started to snow, which turned to sleet - the air was noticeably warmer. I squelched up to the car at around 4 and had a bit of entertainment in the blizzard over the Pass. Back at the hut it was a lonely evening as Dave had returned to Manchester.

The Sunday dawned cold and sunny but with lenticular clouds sitting on the hills, there was obviously a cold wind about, so with an early return required I headed round to see Aber Falls. I would have liked to have done a short circuit above the falls, but after an abortive attempt at traversing the avalanche debris on the left side (at one point narrowly missing sliding down either the outer or the inside of the shell of snow), I opted to try some way to the right. Mistake - more deep powder on top of heather etc. meant it took an hour to gain ~150m and I stopped, defeated, just below the powder cornice. I settled for the return around the western rim of the valley on rock hard ground, not without a few skids and bruises.

So where was the KMC? Hopefully having fun somewhere?


January 10th - Oldham Moors Walk - Dave Bone

Members Present: Dave Shotton, Bob Kelly, Dave Bone.

Guests: Andy Stratford.

Members hoping to meet: Dave Wylie.

This meet was in the midst of the big snows but while following the forecasts through the week there did not seem to be a clear reason to cancel the meet due to the weather at least. Conditions on the ground looked interesting though with the first question, would we be able to park?

We couldn't get into the original car park - a 3m high pile of snow was in the way, and the access road was drifting over! So we parked on the roadside in the village (the main road being kept clear by a stream of ploughs), where the two Daves met Bob. We waited outside the Pub for the last 2 likelies, thus meeting Andy on his first (atypical) meet. At10:10, having given up on more attendees, we started off down the hill - straight into the deep snow between the walls. This was continually knee deep, and with plunges to greater depths (the top of the wall gave slight respite, being rickety and full of gaps), with the navigation with no reference points being shot to hell as well, it thus took an hour to get the first mile done to the bridge over the river. We nearly persuaded Andy to walk the plank first 'bridge' as an initiation. From then on we stayed on the roads, as the next track was an ocean of snow between the walls, though the road had metre high drifts across it and no vehicular access. I should say that the weather was 'OK' - very cloudy and misty, generally dry, but with quite a bitter wind (conditions were supposed to deteriorate later, hopefully towards the walk end).

Our next track was blocked by a 4m high pile, so we joined the original route later - another wall enclosed, drift hell that led to a major cross roads. It was now getting on for 12 and the way onto the moor was a sea of white (and we were on the lee side of the hills) so I dropped the original plan that was unworkable and stuck to a short low level circuit - starting by heading for the A640 over the field. This was another half mile of wading, past the reservoir - I couldn't find the paths for the snow so we dropped into Denshaw and took the A672 out to get some speed up. Then another footpath sign led us into a trap - we were dropping in up to our waists and there was barbed wire in there somewhere. Another route was reluctantly abandoned and at 1330 we sheltered for lunch in a collapsing hut (further collapse threatened by the farmer digging snow out with his tractor on the bank above). So then it was back into Denshaw and another road out to the pass - then picking up the original route onto Crompton moor - the drifts had cornices here! Once on the top the going was easier on scoured icy grass, and we met the (only) 2 walkers of the day. We also met more massive drifts at the next track that fortunately bore just enough weight to prevent a full depth plunge. We were back at the cars at ~15:15 as the snow got going. We made good our escape...

Unsuitable for Motor Vehicles!

Once back at work I heard from Dave Wylie who had hoped to meet us part way round. I enclose his account here to complete the day's story. I think he may have been more determined (is that the right word?) than the rest of us. Thanks to those who came along for an interesting day.


Dave Wylie's walk

I set off from home at 10am and walked up from Hollingworth Lake, up past Dry Mere, then cut over to the Pennine Way just North of the M62. I went past Windy Hill and crossed the A672 at around Noon. According to my calculations, I should then have encountered you coming in the other direction somewhere in the vicinity of White Hill. I continued South on the Pennine Way to where it crosses the A640. I loitered there until about 1:15pm, in case your meet had been delayed by the conditions, but there was no sign of you. There was no indication that anyone else had been walking in that area either (no footprints in the snow at all, neither North nor South of the road). The only other person I saw was a mad cyclist trying to push his bike through the snow up the (blocked and closed) A640...

If I had met you, then I would have joined your meet and gone back North with you over White Hill again, down the ridge and then veered off somewhere later to head back home.

As it was, I decided to make my walk into a circuit, so dropped down the snowbound A640 a short distance and started off North along the Pennine Bridleway. The snow on the track at this point had drifted to at least 20 feet deep, so I had to detour slightly! I continued North, past some of the "various reservoirs" before heading back over to Hollingworth Lake and home.

I've done that circuit, or variations of it, many times in both directions - but it has never been such hard work! It's about 12 miles and, normally, I'd estimate that it would take me less than four hours. Yesterday it took me nearly six. Snow, ice and wind made it pretty "interesting" and I was pretty tired by the time I got back home.

Don't Travel!


January 24th - Pot Scar - Duncan Lee

Members present: Heather Brooke, Colin Maddison and Duncan Lee.

Guest present: James Williams.

Glorious sunshine and dry rock, who could have imagined it could be such a perfect day for climbing? Sadly I could but I was disturbed from my idyllic dream by the plaintive wail of the baby!

In reality four very optimistic souls drove northwards through heavy drizzle that only abated shortly before we arrived in Feizor. Once there I pointed at a cloud and assured people that the crag was up there somewhere. Colin pointed at the café and we all followed, indulging in round one of tea and cakes as the mirk lifted. Thus the crag was visible once we emerged from the café so we wandered up to the scar past the impressive remnants of the previous weeks snow drifts.

Amazingly there were actually patches of dry rock but sadly none of these patches connected to give a dry route so we opted for the two climbs that only looked slightly damp and consoled ourselves with the fact that it was just nice to be outdoors for a change. Colin and Heb made light work of the classic jug fest Equity (S **) whilst James and I had a slightly more testing time on the lively Nirvana (VS 4C *). A tricky but thankfully well protected little number, so well protected in fact that James thoughtfully left a convenient wire in for a grateful Colin and an extremely grateful Heb who was belaying whilst contemplating the weight differential between the two. Shortly afterwards she had "remembered why I don't climb outdoors in January" as she was doubled over at the top of the crag racked with agonising hot aches. A snow covered Ingleborough provided a fitting back drop.

A speedy recovery soon saw her leading Rebate (Vdiff) whilst I led The Stone Soup (E1 5B*). Once everyone had followed that with varying degrees of style and elegance we beat a retreat to the café for round two.


January 29th/31st - Mill Cottage - Brian Street (+Andrew Croughton typing)

Members present: Katharine Bagshaw (G), Bob Kelly, Brian Street, Andrew Croughton.

Day 1 - Friday

A glorious day! The day started off with blue skies, over the Lake District, good icy conditions under foot with ample snow on the tops.

A quick accent of Sharp edge on Blencathra offered a good break in the journey north to Mill cottage in Feshiebridge Cairngorm. The start of the route was clear, just the odd patch of consolidated snow and ice, leading to the frozen tarn just below the ridge proper, despite having left my insoles back in Manchester inside my other boots, it was not too arduous under foot.

After a quick stop to don crampons we set off over the ridge, while the couple that had been following us from the top of the ascent path stopped slightly longer in order to don harnesses, crampons, extra gloves, sort out ice axes and generally faff for England.

As we progressed along the ridge it became obvious that ice axes were not going to give much purchase on the thin covering of ice and dusting of snow that covered the already highly polished and slippery rock underneath, so we stopped to pose for a few pictures. As we looked back down the ridge we could still see Mr. and Mrs. Faff, faffing at the bottom of the ridge. They had enquired about the possibility of further snow, on the way up, to which I had given them that day's forecast.

It was at the final section of the ridge, for us, when we looked back to see that Mr. And Mrs. Faff were still sat at the bottom of the ridge that we considered it might have been better to give them the next day's snow forecast instead, as they could well still be there until then. As we finally neared the summit of Blencathra itself we had great views across the Lake District and could see that most of the summits still had a good covering of snow on them. Two seconds later the wind chill dropped the temperature to well below freezing, the clag came down with the speed of a blanket being spread over a bed and suddenly we were in freezing, windblown, conditions with very little visibility of any kind - must be time to stop for lunch!

After lunch we headed back down out of the clag via the broader descent ridge and back to the car, glad to have had the crampons still on our feet across the frozen turf, allowing a much easier descent with very few slips, just the odd trip. As we had returned at a reasonable hour we now headed to Keswick, in order to by some new insoles, before continuing north, to Mill Cottage and the Cairngorms on Saturday.

As we neared Aviemore, Bob Kelly rang to inform us that the approach track to the hut was snowed in and he and Kath intended to drop off their gear and park at the water sports centre about a mile away.

We decided to head to Aviemore for Haggis and chips as we had already passed the junction for Inch. Bob headed in to Aviemore to collect the key for the hut so they could return and get the fire going. Brian decided as we arrived that the track was not that over snowed and we headed down it to the hut, with the bottom of the car scraping along the iced up track underneath. We reached the hut relatively easily despite going slightly off track outside the hut door.

It was only after several minutes of pushing and shoving to get the car back on to the previously worn tracks we were happy to leave the car where it sat, (That's when it started to snow again, Doh!.) time to get the beer and whisky out.

Day two - Saturday

Bob and Kath set off early for Bynack More, and the barns of Bynack, while Brian and I decided a 8am lie in was called for before intending to head off to Fiacail ridge and Corrie an Snechda for a short day of scrambling in the expected snow and ice. It was not until we had started the attempt to get the car back up the sloping track that we realised our folly from the night before.

The track was cloaked in a fresh covering of snow, which concealed the ice underneath. This combined with the high, compacted snow ridge along the centre of the track gave way to an arduous hour and a half of digging and pushing in order to stop the car grounding on the ice and inch it up the incline. It was not until the final section of the steepest part of the track that the distinctive smell of a burning clutch signalled the demise of the car and the realisation that we were not going to make it on to the hills that day. To add insult to injury, it was looking like a glorious day to be up on a hill. We waited for an hour for the recovery truck but they were struggling to find our location, so Brian decided that we would attempt to get into Aviemore where we could be found more readily.

The car was driveable but the road conditions did little to aid our progress. When the recovery vehicle finally arrived from Inverness we had already surmised that the option available to us were to:

A, have the car towed to the nearest garage to await repair on Monday at the earliest. This would mean an extra day, waiting around, and no guarantee that it would even be done by then.

B, try and drive the car back the next day and hope that what little clutch activity we had would get us safely back to Manchester.

We decided on B and went to the pub. Whilst we sat in the Cairngorm hotel we spied a couple of familiar faces heading towards the bar. It was Brian and Ann, a local couple, to Aviemore, whom we had met while skiing in Italy the previous year. So the silver lining to the day was re-acquainting ourselves with friends we had not seen for a year. (Plus Brian got a beer in which to drown his sorrows.)

Bob and Kath on the other hand had a much better day and managed an ascent of Bynack More starting from the visitor centre car park at Glenmore lodge in the light of a big full moon. The path from Glenmore lodge was powder snow as they headed along the Pass of Ryvoan. They then continued passed Lochan Uaine and east towards Bynack stables and the river Nethy, before crossing the river and following the path, falling into lots of snow covered holes, SE over the lower shoulder of Bynack More and up to its highest point then heading up the north ridge to the summit itself. From here they headed back down to the corrie of Bynack Beg and under the shoulder back into Strath Nethy, which they then followed back to the car park at Glenmore lodge.

On her return to the hut Kath was glad of the shower, stating that it was the greatest experience of the day. We all then spent the rest of the evening cooking meals in the forlorn hope that the heat from the ovens would warm the kitchen. It didn't, but the huge chunks of coal burning away on the lounge stove generated plenty of heat keeping us all warm for the night, whilst we drank wine and whisky and I typed up the report for the day.

Day three - Sunday

Brian and I had resigned ourselves to the fact that Sunday would only mean carting our gear to the top of the track where the car sat, and hope we could nurse the car back to Manchester before what remained of the clutch gave way totally. Fortunately (and surprisingly) - it did!

Bob and Kath unsurprisingly had a better Sunday and were again away pre-dawn to get another crisp moonlit walk in. They were up at the Coire Cas car park at half eight and trogged (Bob's word but I like it - BS) up and around to Coire an t'Sneachda. Visibility was not good at that point and they could not clearly see the climbs but set their minds on Jacobs ladder. The first effective pitch went un-roped but as the gully narrowed, the rope was brought out because of the amount of ice. After this pitch, the difficulty eased and the rest of the climb was finished without the need for the rope. Meanwhile, it had started to snow in the gully and as they topped out they met high winds and no visibility at all - pretty much a white out. They navigated around to the cairn at the top of Fiacail Coire Cas with no drama but did manage to pick up a couple of young skiers on the way who were heading off into the plateau thinking they were heading back to the slopes. Having sent them on the right track bob and Kath zipped down the ridge and were back at half past two ready for a clear run back to Manchester

Summary

Bob Kelly - "Thank you for arranging - what turned out for Katharine and I - a great meet".

Katharine Bagshaw - "Yes, thanks to you both, the hut was great too, I'd for sure go there again".

Brian & Andrew - "Some you win and some you lose but we had an excellent Friday, had a good rest, drank and ate well and of course had great company. Also, the clutch was sorted and so nothing broken that couldn't be fixed!"


February 7th - Lancashire Walk - Dave Shotton

Members: John Dobson, Jim and Sandy Gregson, Bob Kelly, Iain McCallum, Dave Shotton, Keith Williams, Dave Wylie.

Guests: Margaret Baldock, Julien Bodard, Joe Dugdale, Ding Koy, Julian Laidler, Julia Partington.

It was good to see a satisfying turnout (of both newcomers and familiar faces) on the day, confounding early expectations! The weather was overcast, with visibility becoming poor at times due to mist on the tops, but at least it didn't rain.

We left the Crookfield Road car park just after 9.45 a.m. (almost on time), passing through the plantation and halting only briefly by the ruins of Hollinshead Hall, before crossing the A675 and heading on upwards to the summit of Great Hill. After a quick refreshment stop at the top, we pressed on before the imminent arrival of an even larger party of walkers, following the stone flags along Spitlers Edge, crossing the road at Hordern Stoops, and heading on up the short but steep section to the summit of Winter Hill. By this time thick mist had closed in to the extent that the TV and telecommunications antennae were largely hidden from view even when standing next to them! We carried on down the path to the A675 near Belmont village, at which point Bob Kelly left us early as he had remembered something important (though all turned out well in the end, as he confirmed later).

There followed something of a magical mystery (de)tour down towards the Ornamental Reservoir, involving a slightly unofficial incursion on the back yard of the old Belmont Dye Works to reach Egerton Road, from where footpaths and lanes led to Belmont Reservoir. The dam was off limits due to construction works, so lunch was taken next to the track leading up towards Longworth Moor. The track was then followed past Higher Pasture House and on to the junction with the Witton Weavers Way, where a breakaway group comprising Julia, Margaret, Joe and John took a direct route back to the car park. The remaining stalwarts however took a longer loop back over Longworth and Turton Moors, pausing en route to investigate the remains of old mine workings, farm buildings and the old tramway around the area known as the Rabbit Warren. We then continued along paths between Turton and Darwen Moors (largely devoid of other walkers), rejoining the Witton Weavers Way before descending to lower ground just south of Turn Lowe, and reaching the car park a little after 4 p.m. (Due to restricted visibility and lack of inclination, Darwen Tower was left for another day).

Total distance covered was about 12 miles (19 kilometres) for the full route without shortcuts.


February 13th/14th - Hut Working Party - James Hoyle

Members present: James and Kasia Hoyle, Chris Williams, Dave Wylie, Bob Kelly, Jo and Mark Furniss, John Castick, Iain McCallum.

A good turnout of familiar faces got lots done on the Saturday. Ty Derelict had become unsafe so Chris, Dave and John knocked it down carefully, leaving a neat and tidy shell in its place, helping us avoid any liability claims. Meanwhile, Bob and Kasia cleaned and tidied the hut with Bob's military past coming into its own as even the brass got a good polish and came up gleaming. With the harsh winter, attempts were made to maintain the steep section of track which we spent some money on last summer. The ditch was dug out down the side and bumps to prevent the gravel running down it were heightened but don't worry we didn't go too high! A number of other jobs were also completed but we finished at a good time after a good day's work for a few beers and a sit around the fire which Chris had purchased some new coals.

On Sunday many of us climbed Parsley Fern Gully which was in fantastic knick and enjoyed a walk in very wintry weather down to Pen y Pass. Other people did their own thing but I don't think the aches and pains of Saturday had got the better of anyone this time around so everyone enjoyed doing something.

Many thanks to all those who helped out. It is really appreciated and I hope you had a good time too.


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